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Laurent JUILLET
04-17-2005, 08:07 AM
Hello.
I wrote several articles about orchestra and home studio. I am sorry they are in french. So for those who could read french here are the links. I really hope this work could help someone.
Recréer un orchestre Symphonique (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurentjuillet/siteweb/article-recreer-un-orchestre.htm)
Registres et Téssitures. (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurentjuillet/siteweb/article-registres-et-tessitures.htm)
Harmonie et système tonal (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurentjuillet/siteweb/article-harmonie-et-systeme-total.htm)
sugar hari
04-17-2005, 07:33 PM
I wrote several articles about orchestra and home studio. I am sorry they are in french. So for those who could read french here are the links. I really hope this work could help someone.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
For those who do not speak French, here is a fine translator tool. A good bookmark, offering translation(s) for individual words / articles / documents or entire web pages in a matter of seconds. From Laurent Juillet's above links: Paste any of his URLs in the window under Translate a Web page ....and oooo là là!
Select "to and from" languages in the dropdown. French to English ..... or German to Portuguese ..... to Russian!
ps -Laurent JUILLET, the music (.mov) of the London Philarmonia Orchestra session was beautiful. .....made everyone here, feel all "lit up inside." And your work, too, stunning.
Thank you for the tutorials! Comment généreux!
G.Jouan
04-20-2005, 06:38 AM
Comment généreux!
mmh let me guess... you used the translator for this one isn't it? :rolleyes: (how generous = très généreux)
Well Laurent I already told you what I think of your work with the philarmonic ;) (SoundTracker sur le forum de musique de film.com)
Laurent JUILLET
04-20-2005, 07:35 AM
sur quel Forum G.Juan?
G.Jouan
04-20-2005, 08:47 AM
Bah le forum de "musique de film.com" c'est marqué plus haut regarde :rolleyes: Mais le pseudo c'était SoundTracker...
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On a French Forum but the pseudo was SoundTracker... Anyway that was quite a long time ago you probably don't remember... mmh actually that's not the perfect translation but well... :D
Laurent JUILLET
04-20-2005, 08:53 AM
Ben oui je me souvenais bien de ton pseudo, mais pas d'être inscrit dans un forum portant le nom que tu donnes, en fait pour moi c'est Traxzone. Merci encore. ;)
G.Jouan
04-20-2005, 10:18 AM
hehe ah oui c'est vrai traxzone autant pour moi et de rien ;)
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I gived him the wrong forum reference... ok I know this is totally unuseful to translate that but it's good for my english practice :rolleyes:
sugar hari
04-20-2005, 11:32 AM
mmh let me guess... you used the translator for this one isn't it? : rolleyes : (how generous = très généreux)
Yes, sorries ... only 8th grade French under me belt and that was, heh, a few years ago. Nonetheless, BabelFish may be of use to this global community. One highlight in Mac's I.E. browser: Fully loaded pages can be pulled into the scrapbook feature to archive exact duplicates (including graphics) - which worked well to save Laurent's Français/Anglais documents. As a novice to the E. West universe, I'm in the babystep phase re orchestration. (I've not yet loaded the Gold and already am considering the Platinum GB for a rainy day.) At this point, I welcome every tutorial, link, pdf file and tech-hint whether it be in French, Pig Latin or Swahili. Cool kingdom, this place - kindergarten to pro composers. Wild.
Little boat - big Ocean ...
L
"All men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free them"
~Leonard Cohen
Laurent JUILLET
04-20-2005, 12:19 PM
And what do you think about my tutorials Sugar Hari?
sugar hari
04-21-2005, 01:05 PM
And what do you think about my tutorials Sugar Hari?
Well, Sir, I appreciate your tutorials very much! I printed the documents and added the chapters to a binder that remains perennially open on a music stand. This notebook contains Northern Sound threads, as well as jphilpit's pdf tutorial for the E.W. orchestral software (which is a magnificent lamp!). Per your "To Recreate a Symphony Orchestra" -- Very good advice! ***To understand the characteristics of each instrument is key! (which I have much to learn in that regard) - not to exceed the natural register of an instrument - to "breathe along" as if you were playing the wind instruments - to create relays instead of overly-long sustains, etc. The attention of mastering sound balance, harmonic balance. Also, on using mono for critical listening re phasing issues / to gain clearness and precision. Oh, and not to over-quantize the MIDI (agreed). I have much to review re controller #s / expression / dynamics, modulation and the art of nuance in terms of attacks and release. Some instruments are easily played on a master controller I imagine, but other instruments will require impeccable hand tweaking. I admire the blokes who can sketch an entire symphony on a park bench! Aye, to possess that sort of ability in the twinkling of an eye - what knowledge and understanding! Also, I will take some long months to just explore the Library, one instrument at a time. Can hardly wait!
I have not yet loaded the Gold Symphonic orchestra as i do not have the (new) computer for handling the requirement(s), but these circumstances vanish by May along with any vestige of hope that Apple would be announcing new powermacs. Once upgraded, I will be able to start applying the many tutorials and tech help gathered on forums. For now I am still in Digital Performer 3 on OS9 - so the entire set-up will be "brought up to speed" this year, including my humble studio (http://dandelionpie.com/studio4berklee/index.html) which is in the process of being dismantled and relocated to a larger, acoustic space. Harmonie et Système Tonal is a challenge to comprehend as I've only taken theory classes with Paul Schmeling through Berklee, which put me through the ropes! Until then, my music had been more intuitive, random and holistic. But now, I am beginning to understand the mathematics of the more logical, analytical and sequential aspect. This education is shifting my style of thinking and dissolving circular creativity (as in not expansive - and quite repetitious, to be honest.) This calculation of theory is a welcome foundation to create something fresh. Math and heart. ...or math is heart. Anyway, I reckon Pythagorus got it right.
Thank you again, for your posted tutorials - they will be a help to many people.
sugar hari
04-21-2005, 01:22 PM
Oh, and a curious story --
My neighbor --(who passed away some months ago), left my husband and I his entire record collection which contained mostly boxes and boxes of rare (LP vinyl) jazz and big band, but there were 2 huge boxes of classical that he had collected since pre-1952 on onward. Some of the albums still have their original price tag (ha $3.00) - Each morning, I reserve an hour for critical listening ...just close my eyes and ....... listen. It's an intoxicating world of otherworldly raptures and I am amazed that human beings can create something so utterly gorgeous with wood, metal, strings and drums. This collection is in pristine condition, too! Rare recordings on Angel Records, like Berlioz The Trojans (Highlights from Paris / Regine Crespin / Guy Chauvet / Georges Pretre) ---Hayden and Boccherini by the Philharmonia Orchestra conductor caro Maria giulini - I'm looking at the stack of LPs = Nutcracker Suite, Beethoven, Chopin, Bach, Schubert, here's one: Anton Dvorak Requiem op.89 (the back cover all in French) 2 LPs. Here's another -Eugene Ormandy conducting the Philadelphia Orchestra - It's quite a blessing, my neighbor's lifelong collection - at least 300 albums of orchestral music, of which I am much to young in my knowing to comment on anything. And strange that these boxes were delivered on the very day E.W.Gold arrived on our doorstep. What a coincidence!
I really like Arvo Part, too - his brooding, melancholy stuff which reminds me of Lisa Gerrard's beauty and mystic. The secret world.
And ps: most likely, there'll be a Booklist thread started by someone - in the meanwhile, since you suggested some fine books on your papers, here are some that I am studying:
The Guide to MIDI Orchestration - 3rd edition P. Gilreath (beautiful book, indeed!)
Orchestration - Cecil Forsyth
Anatomy of an Orchestra - Norman del mar
The Technique of Orchestration - Kennan Grantham
Other books on my shelf (heh, open on every available space):
Arranging Techniques for Synthesists - Turkel
Mixing Engineer's handbook - Owsinski
Mastering Audio - Katz
Mixing With Your Mind (http://www.mixingwithyourmind.com/index.htm) a book that inspired current overhaul of studio.
Behind the Glass - Howard Massey
Audio in Media - Alten
The Art of Mixing (very helpful) - Gibson
Lots of film scoring books.
Lots of Dreams.
Okay, I think I've used up my byte-space 'round here. :) Laterz. And thanks, again.
Laurent JUILLET
04-21-2005, 02:38 PM
It is in my turn to thank you Sugar Hari for this English tutorial. I have to perfect my Shakespeare language a lot!!
I have really appreciate your comments, they give some value to my work. I always thought that music belonged to everyone. I am happy to share my little of experiment with the others musicians. I have still so much things to learn, it is incredible. And I am finally sure I will not know anything, it is what makes the life beautiful! :D
Thanks for your list of book.
Neilfactory
04-21-2005, 04:50 PM
Great!Great!Great!
Laurent, tu maitrises grave quand même l'english!
Super boulot pour tes tutauriaux!(Que j'avais déjà lu!)WONDERFULL>>> :) :)
Laurent JUILLET
04-21-2005, 04:53 PM
salut Neil ;)
I would like to introduce you my friend THE TRANSLATOR (http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html) :D
sugar hari
04-22-2005, 10:24 AM
I have still so much things to learn, it is incredible. And I am finally sure I will not know anything, it is what makes the life beautiful! :D
I tell you - these exact words were printed and posted on our refrigerator. Now, every morning, my family sees "the French man" quote - a very profound and wise reminder. We raise our glasses filled with juice of oranges and speak: "Merci, Monsieur Juillet!" as we enjoy our breakfast in the morning sun. Not only are you a musician, but a poet and teacher as well!
thank you for the awareness to greet each day with soft eyes and wonder.
Laurent JUILLET
04-22-2005, 04:14 PM
"Merci, Monsieur Juillet!"
Merci à vous, Sugar Hari!
That is one off the most beautiful comment never wrote about what I could think and write on the various forums. Your words really touched me. And I at the same time happy and am impressed that my daily thoughts can find echo at others, all the more if it are far. Thanks again and greet your familly for me.
One more thing, I will certainly have a thought for the sugar hari's family by drinking my grapefruit juice of the breakfast now.
sugar hari
04-22-2005, 07:24 PM
Appréciez le jus de pamplemousse! :D
Clockworker
05-08-2005, 05:43 PM
COol! Merci Laurent!
Je suis content de voir que je suis pas tout seul de français! héhé... (Québécois)
Laurent JUILLET
05-09-2005, 01:35 AM
Moi aussi! :D
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