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jloving
07-19-2008, 08:41 AM
hope you're not tired of 'new computer' threads, yet :o

I'm at the point where I need to upgrade my machine, and am not too far away from having the $$ to do so, but of all things to get hung up on, it's the RAM. Up until now, I've used Crucial RAM, partially because of the cost - but this time around I want to be sure I'm getting quality sticks that will perform well even if that means paying more. I really just don't know what to look for in a stick of RAM :confused:

A second hang up for me is the case/cooling. I'd really prefer to have everything in the same box this time around, so I'm leaning towards the Antec P182 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025); I like that the hard disks are getting direct airflow, as well as the CD/DVD and MOBO getting cross ventilated from the top and back. Together with the CPU Fan Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134) this appears, to me at least, to be a good cooling solution - but I could also be very wrong. Your thoughts are certainly appreciated.

Here's the rest of what I'm looking at, so you can get the 'big picture':

Dual Boot: XP Prox86 - XP Prox64 (Ooo - another question: presuming drivers are available, could I dualboot XP x86 and Vista x64 without issue?)

MOBO: ASUS P5K-E
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131225)Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115018)
RAM: 8GB of ????
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS (from Current PC)
CPU Fan: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)
CD/DVD 1: Lite-On 20X DH-20A4H-06 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106229)
CD/DVD 2: Samsung (from Current PC)
OS Drive: 80GB - Western Digital Caviar (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144122)
Data Drive: 500GB - Western Digital Caviar (from Current PC)
Sample Drive 1: 320GB - Western Digital Caviar (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074)*
Sample Drive 2: 320GB - Western Digital Caviar (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074)*
Audio Drive: 160 GB - Western Digital Caviar (from Current PC)*

*I'll probably go ahead and make each of these a 500GB drive as well, but for now at least I'm looking at is as "how much space do I want vs. how much do I need".

I don't have a PSU listed for the simple fact that I haven't yet figured out the size I'll need - I'd rather have the pieces in place beforehand - then I'll figure out what kind of power I need, I do realize I need one though:D

Your suggestions as to RAM and the fan situation - or anything else regarding the build are most appreciated.

Thanks
Jon

persentio
07-19-2008, 09:34 AM
I am dual booting XP86 and Vista64 now without issue; BUT. Be sure to install Vistax64 AFTER you install XP. Also, you need to partition your OS drive and make sure XP is installed on the partition that is 'in front'. (Im not sure what exactly or how exactly, but there's a known issue of this causing boot problems). I'm dual booting from 2 separate hard drives however.

For RAM, perhaps the OCZ Reaper? They have built-on heatpipes for cooling. Get the cheap 800MHz DDR2 ones will do.

Also you might want to take a look at SilentPCReview (http://www.silentpcreview.com) if noise is an issue for you on recommended fans, PSUs, HDDs, and GPUs to get. Your system is rather similar to mine so I guess a 600 Watt PSU will be about just right for you. (i'm currently using the Enermax Modu 82+ 625W). You could also take a look at the Zalman ZM HP (http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/CategorySecond_Pic.asp?categoryname=Power%20Suppli es&categorySecond=)series.

As for the CPU Cooling fans or even case fans, there are a good number of great coolers out there that are also silent. These are some I highly recommend:

CPU Cooler:
http://www.nexustek.nl/NXS-XiR-2300_Xir-3500_silent-CPU-Cooler.htm
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=14&lng=en
http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=278

Case Fans:
http://www.nexustek.nl/NXS-silentcasefans.htm
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=12&lng=en

jloving
07-19-2008, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, Persentio!

I hadn't come across the XP before Vista install before, so that alone probably saved me a day or two of frustration and heavy swearing! The quieter the better for sure, so I'll have a look through those links and see what solutions I come up with.

About the PSU - I figured nothing less than 550W, but was estimating maybe a little on the high side around 700-750. Good to know that you're using a 625W, if I don't make any major changes in the components I'll start in that range and see how it stacks up, maybe save a few $$ too.

Thanks again, much appreciated!

Jon