Orchestra Score for the Full Swan Lake

[mbeaumont]

Hello all,

I have been looking to study the Full Score to Swan Lake, I have tried obvious places and cannot seem to get far unless I part with some cash, which really I am saving for Hollywood Strings...

Any Ideas Anyone?

Cheers
Mik

[Mad Kiltie]

Hi Mik,

Try here...

http://imslp.org/wiki/Swan_Lake_(ballet),_Op.20_(Tchaikovsky,_Pyotr_Ilyi ch)

Derek

[mbeaumont]

Oh wow! Thanks, just what I was looking for..

Cheers
Mik

[A.Leung]

That's one of the first scores I transcribed in it entirety. You will love I'm sure! I learned a helluva lot!

[francois_harel]

Yes Mike,
I began the transcription too.
Veru poweful and beautiful music!
Francois, MOntreal

[Jim Curits]

Hi Mik,

Try here...

http://imslp.org/wiki/Swan_Lake_(ballet),_Op.20_(Tchaikovsky,_Pyotr_Ilyi ch)

Derek


Oops! The Page Can Not Be Found!

Help please....

[chest]

^ ... I get a page with hardly anything on it, but clicking where it says "search for this page title" takes you somewhere useful

[mbeaumont]

Try this ...

http://imslp.org/wiki/Swan_Lake_(ballet),_Op.20_(Tchaikovsky,_Pyotr_Ilyi ch)#Full_Scores

BTW - Does anyone know if there is an English Translation of Page 4 (Introduction - which explains the story of the scenes within the Acts)
- Just interested to read...

Cheers
M

[chest]

That's an awful lot of notes to input.

How about easing some of the burden by looking for MIDI files that contain some of it - provided that you're only importing straight MIDI data equivalent to the score, all you're doing is short-circuiting part of a labour-intensive process. I realise that some people might say that inputting all the parts is part of the learning process, but I believe, Mik, that you've not been averse to scanning paper scores as a way to get data into Sibelius?

Here's a related MIDI file I found after a couple of minutes searching (I don't know whether it's true to the score):

http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/prodigy/130/2swanlake.mid

It came via this: http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/prodigy/130/midi2.html

which, in turn came from this:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:QWAlsqUDlT4J:www.midisite.co.uk/midi_search/swan_lake.html+swan+lake+midi+file&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

which resulted from Googling "swan lake midi file".

[mbeaumont]

Hello Chest,

Thanks for the help... Having given it some thought, I sat and said to myself, "What do I want to achieve by having access to the full orchestral scores when I can just load the midi score..."

Here is what I came up with in terms of manually inputting the data..

1. A better understanding of how Notators shortcuts can save time
2. Thinking about the dynamics in the score and what QLEWSO patch would best reproduce the effect
2. An understanding of the limits and how to get the best out of certain instruments
3. A grasp of Transposing Instruments
4. An Understanding of where the score is going paying particular attention to melody development etc
5. An insight of colorisation
6. Trying to understand the rules of ochestration; i.e. the spliting of a chord over the orchestra
7. Best of all.... a small peek inside the mind of a genius.

For me, input each note gives me time to give some thought and consider where the notation is leading up to, giving me an opportunity to reflect and test my own understanding and development and think more about the QLSO patches or articulations. Keying each note in for me would like like reading a story, watching events unfold and trying to predict where the story is going next. Sometimes holding my breath for the next page..

Loading up a Midi file, kind of just gives me the answers, like an exam paper, without testing my understanding and I feel whilst for many this would be also a solution, I feel that I want to read the book, from start to finsh.

Thanks for the tip, most warmly welcomed.

Cheers
Mik

[commandcom]

Hello,

Just my 2 cents:

I did this with Williams' "Adventures on earth" from E.T.

And, giving that surelly you're already familiar with "orchestrating" a rock band, I can tell you, It is really not that different at all.

Really. So, what really matters (unless you have an enormous amount of time to spare) is the "dialectic" of the media, the answers to the same old problems you've faced before, but in a different language.

Maybe if you were not familiar wih those (having no background at all in arranging/composing) I wouldn't tell you this, but believe me you'll save a lot of time and still find what you're looking for by "just tweaking" the Midi file, instead of transcribing the whole thing.

But it is invaluable to have the origina score side by side. So you're just "skipping" the typo-thing and focusing in what's this, how's this made, how this works against that.

Best,

Jorge