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FilmComposer79
02-19-2010, 08:28 PM
Hello everyone,

I haven't posted anything here in quite some time, and thought I would share a piano solo piece I wrote about a year ago. I've never posted any piano solo work on a forum, so please feel free to leave your comments and feedback. Sorry for the loudness, but I hope you enjoy.

Thanks for listening!

-Matt


http://1m1music.com/mattsargent/Atonement%20Piano%20Solo.mp3

Sherief83
02-20-2010, 07:36 PM
Good stuff Matt! very Hollywood.

FilmComposer79
02-20-2010, 10:23 PM
Hey Sherief,

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

-M

rolifer
02-21-2010, 09:34 AM
Nice piece.

Ron

FilmComposer79
02-21-2010, 10:05 AM
Hi Ron,

Thank you. I enjoyed your tracks as well on your page. Great stuff!

-Matt

TheRaider
02-21-2010, 02:59 PM
the link doesn't work for me

FilmComposer79
02-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Hi Raider,

Sorry, I don't know what to tell you. Do you have the latest version of Quicktime installed?

Best,
Matt

hzambrana
02-23-2010, 01:53 PM
Spectacular! Might I ask which reverb settings you used?

FilmComposer79
02-23-2010, 06:18 PM
Hi Hzambrana,

Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it! I'm using the Lexicon 300 Scoring Stage preset. It works well, and I usually beef up the gain on Space Designer (Logic's special reverb unit) and it gives it a little punch to the piano sound. What reverb units do you use?

Best,

Matt

MPDmike
02-23-2010, 06:48 PM
Very dramatic stuff Matt, I liked it a lot. I could imagine from the opening it was going to burst into something like the Tchaikovsky 1, then it veered off into other interesting and wistful territory. A good powerful climax and ending.

Out of interest, what piano were you using there?

chrisssteeven
02-23-2010, 10:01 PM
Wow !
Thats nice piece of music. :)
I enjoyed it a lot.

Strezov
02-24-2010, 12:28 AM
As a pianist I'd say - great stuff, mate! Nothing more to add!

Thanks for sharing!

FilmComposer79
02-24-2010, 09:46 PM
Hi MPDmike,

Thanks so much for your pleasant comment! I was using the Bosendorfer 290. I can't quite remember the full name of it, but when you add a certain amount of reverb, it can help the sound. Just not too much. :)


Best,
Matt

Pavol
02-25-2010, 06:57 AM
Very nice composition. I really like it...:)

MPDmike
02-25-2010, 03:31 PM
I was using the Bosendorfer 290.Thanks Matt. As a non-pianist I find it difficult appreciating the differences between pianos, which is why I asked. I had the original Bosendorfer in Samplecell in 1991, when 1 MB was a huge instrument! I now have EWQL Pianos, so I hope that my Bosendorfer will sound as good as the piece you have produced here. It is great stuff Matt.

FilmComposer79
02-26-2010, 07:30 PM
Hi Mike,

Yes, the EWQL Pianos will most likely sound better than what I used. I've been wanting to purchase that for a while, just can't get around to it. Good luck!

purplerhapsody
02-27-2010, 03:02 AM
Hi Matt,

The piano sounds quite 'plinky plonky' on the higher notes which ruins the realism for me... but the music itself and the playing are marvellous. Very intricate and involved playing with nice changes in mood and timing throughout.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Terry.

FilmComposer79
02-27-2010, 11:59 AM
Hi Matt,

The piano sounds quite 'plinky plonky' on the higher notes which ruins the realism for me... but the music itself and the playing are marvellous. Very intricate and involved playing with nice changes in mood and timing throughout.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Terry.

Hi Terry,

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll see what I can do to EQ that. What pianos do you use? I appreciate your feedback!

Warm regards,

Matt

purplerhapsody
02-27-2010, 01:01 PM
What pianos do you use?

I'm very lucky. I've got a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-130. It's a full size, fully touch sensitive (and with true hammer response so it feels like a real piano), and sounds amazingly realistic (to my ears).

They sampled the most expensive Yamaha grand piano at various velocities, etc, etc, etc, just like EW do for their pianos and then it's all in the hardware. I connect it up using standard audio cables and it also has MIDI in/out.

As I said, I'm very very lucky to have it.

Feel free to comment on the sound it makes... Track #12 (Empty Stage) on the player on my site's homepage (link in my sig) is solo piano, recorded live with some reverb put on to emulate an empty stage.

Cheers,
Terry.

MPDmike
02-27-2010, 03:37 PM
I'm very lucky. I've got a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-130.As a non-pianist, I sometimes find it hard to get the best out of piano samples. Now, maybe, if I was a real pianist and could play on a real Steinway or Bosendorfer, or other well-known piano, I might be able to create some fantastic sound that everybody found completely believable. But I am not in that position. I have to use QL Pianos to simulate what a real pianist might sound like.

I am at a loss here, because I often hear sampled pianos and I think they are OK, but then some pianist comes along and finds them unnatural in some way. Are we saying that a sampled piano can never sound like the best real piano? I would like to know the answer to that question?

purplerhapsody
02-27-2010, 03:58 PM
As a non-pianist, I sometimes find it hard to get the best out of piano samples. Now, maybe, if I was a real pianist and could play on a real Steinway or Bosendorfer, or other well-known piano, I might be able to create some fantastic sound that everybody found completely believable. But I am not in that position. I have to use QL Pianos to simulate what a real pianist might sound like.

I am at a loss here, because I often hear sampled pianos and I think they are OK, but then some pianist comes along and finds them unnatural in some way. Are we saying that a sampled piano can never sound like the best real piano? I would like to know the answer to that question?

In my opinion a sampled piano can never match the real thing for authenticity. However, if I had a real grand piano I'd never be able to set the microphones up correctly to record it accurately (and they'd cost a fortune too). So I guess I'm saying that good quality samples are 'good enough'.

I love my copy of EW SO Gold but I am fully aware that a trained orchestral musician will be able to spot samples easily from a hundred paces.

You can never please all the people all of the time and in the end our intended audience is not professional musicians or specialised populations, it's your average music lover who tends to listen to the music rather than nit-picking about technical merits.

Just my opinion....

Cheers,
Terry.

MPDmike
02-27-2010, 04:20 PM
In my opinion a sampled piano can never match the real thing for authenticity. However, if I had a real grand piano I'd never be able to set the microphones up correctly to record it accurately (and they'd cost a fortune too). So I guess I'm saying that good quality samples are 'good enough'.

I love my copy of EW SO Gold but I am fully aware that a trained orchestral musician will be able to spot samples easily from a hundred paces.Many thanks for your opinions Terry. I am glad that you say that sampled pianos are 'good enough'. I feel the same way, but we are all individuals and often it comes down to the status quo to decide what we all think.

One thing, that seems very difficult to achieve in samples, is just what it is like to be there in the audience of a symphony concert. I liked to sit near the front, to get the full power of the orchestra, and there was a certain sound of hearing bows scraping on strings that I never hear on CDs. Reality is not something you can easily record, even with our best technology. To say nothing of the smell in the hall, the feeling of other people around you, the sense of occasion.