View Full Version : Classical piece/ one of my best

05-10-2005, 03:26 AM
Well, i put some sweat and tears into this one.
On the guitar especially, but i'm doing alot with Gold.
It constantly blows my mind. :D

This piece really got me excited when i was mixing it.
Sonatina, by Frederico Morena Torroba. It was written only for
guitar. I decided to write an orchestra around my own guitar recording.

This is pure Gold, and im playing my Ramirez classical guitar
through a pair of SM-81s through an Aphex Thermionics tube preamp.
No compresion on anything. A hair of EQ on the guitar, but Gold is straight up with
nothing on it. Just a Waves L2 on the master bus in Nuendo 2.
Oh and Waves IR verb on the guitar. My fave is Santa Cecilia large, balcony.
Seems to mix with the Gold trails nicely. :cool:


This one should bring you a smile.

05-10-2005, 05:07 AM
Awesome job man!

I definitely don't have the knowhow/ear/sequencing skills to mix around a prerecorded instrument. Very impressive!

nhick ramiro pacis
05-10-2005, 05:18 AM
... and awesome playing too!

05-10-2005, 06:12 AM
Beautiful work there Toddk! You have some great chops. How long you been playin’ that thang?
Nice job on the mix and orchestration too. :D


Steve Karl
05-10-2005, 08:26 AM
Very nice work.


05-10-2005, 01:50 PM
Wow, that's great. That's some good orchestration and some great guitar playing. If you dont' mind me asking, did you record the guitar and then sequence the orchestra around it or do the sequencing and then record to that?

05-10-2005, 02:54 PM
Wow, that's great. That's some good orchestration and some great guitar playing. If you dont' mind me asking, did you record the guitar and then sequence the orchestra around it or do the sequencing and then record to that?

:) That's a great question! ha ha!

I recorded the guitar part first. But i really wasnt sure for a long time
how i was going to do it, and get all the phrasing together. Many nights
laying there thinking about what the best way would be.

I'm used to working in the piano roll editor, i dont use a controller.
So this was a challenge cause i had to write in the editor without
the grid.
It was tough but i learned alot from it. This gives me ideas for more
things i can do using this formula. Now i know i can work effectively
even without a click/grid. Takes longer, but.....:)


Scott Rogers
05-10-2005, 05:49 PM
This is simply outstanding. A real delight to hear. Thanks for posting it.

05-10-2005, 08:23 PM

I couldn't see anything to improve on that... Great job!

05-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Hi Todd,

Excellent work as always :) Keep them coming :)


05-11-2005, 05:27 AM
Ok...I quit! :p

05-11-2005, 05:49 AM
I'm very happy everyone enjoyed it!!

I sure did have fun making it! :D

There sure are some talented people here, and i love listening to
all the great demos. Great job all!
You all keep me very inspired to work everyday to get better.
Huge thanks! This kind of support network is priceless....


05-11-2005, 07:58 AM
Wow, this is really excelent! Great job!

Say, which string articulations are you using at 1:15 and until the end of that phrase? That little piece is extremely realistic and expressive. It sounds like you may have layered some short articulation on top of a sustained one. Is this the case? I'd be really interested to see which specific articulations you used as you really made this sound natural.

Great job!

05-11-2005, 10:04 AM
yah Todd, excellent job. Great guitar playing too. I wonder if you sometimes kill the guitar track and play live to it just for fun? I would all the time (if i could play guitar!)

I enjoyed it the most when the guitar and orchestra played counter to each other, i.e. not just the strings playing the guitar melody along with the guitar. That way, it feels less like an accompaniment and more like a concerto.

05-11-2005, 02:26 PM
This is Album quality stuff that you could sell...Its good to hear what i can aspire to do with gold!

05-11-2005, 03:12 PM
Wow! Love the piece :) Great guitar playing and love what you have done with the orchestration

Another demo please :D

05-11-2005, 09:05 PM
Beautiful maestro...!!!! UN poquito de musica española!!


05-20-2005, 12:01 AM
Thoroughly enjoyed the listen. Your playing, sequencing and recording chops were well demonstrated!! Well done. . . and thank you for sharing. :)

Bernard Asselin
05-21-2005, 07:47 PM
The guitar playing and the compositional srtucture are wonderful! Thanks for sharing.

05-21-2005, 08:10 PM
How delightful! Nice mix and arrangement - you nailed the orchestration. Bravo! :)

Jared Hudson
05-23-2005, 08:12 PM
I enjoyed this a lot. Keep up the good work. ;)


05-24-2005, 09:58 AM
My english not so good I want to say this is a magical experience.

05-24-2005, 10:28 AM
Wow. The integration of the (excellent) live guitar with the software orchestra is absolutely seamless. Varying tempo, creative arrangement, spot-on technical performances...it's all there! I'm tremendously inspired by this work; thanks for sharing it!

05-24-2005, 10:59 AM
Thanks so much all!

I had such a wonderful time with this piece! So glad to see others
share in it. :D


Hardy Heern
05-24-2005, 01:39 PM
Toddk, What an original, lighthearted sounding and fascinating composition. A joyful change from the more usual fare. Your guitar playing is a delight for sore ears.

Thanks for the great listen.


Per K
05-24-2005, 04:30 PM
Amazing playing and composing!