Help with Votox in latin?

[ssaxamaphone]

Hi, I have these phrases in latin, but the thing is i dont know how to pronounce any of it so i would have no idea how to type it into votox. could somebody help me "translate" this latin phrase into votox so i can use it with symphonic choirs and wordbuilder? any help would be greatly appreciated, as this is for a honors project which decides whether or not I am going to be admitted into UCLA.

1. Et ecce terraemotus factus est magnus; angelus enim Domini descendit de caelo. Alleluia

2. Terra tremuit, et quievit, dum resureget in judicio Deus, Alleluia



thank you all in advance

[Sam Fischmann]

I'd love to help, but I don't personally know Latin...

[Voiceontheair]

I see you need help with the "Church Latin" pronunciation. It shouldn't take you that long to figure out the Votox equivalents for those two lines. Here's a website you might want to check:

http://www.math.nyu.edu/~wendlc/pronunciation/Latin.html

Good luck!

Darren

[ssaxamaphone]

thanks darren, i went to the website you linked but i dont really understand it...

[Software]

No one really knows how Latin was pronounce when it was used in ancient Rome.

There still is the European standard way of pronouncing. The American way is definetely wrong and WB is even missing an essential vowel to pronounce Latin.

[jpatty]

Here is a little help.


1. Et ecce terraemotus factus est magnus; angelus enim Domini descendit de caelo. Alleluia


1. eT e C!Ei Ter rEi mo TuS Fak TuS eST mag nuS: an je luS e nim do mii nii dEi zjen deT dEi Kei Lo

aL LEi Lu ya



2. Terra tremuit, et quievit, dum resureget in judicio Deus, Alleluia


2. Ter ra Trii mu iiT eT KuEi ev iiT, dum rEi Su rEi gEiT in ju dii C!ii o dEi uS, aL LEi Lu ya


You might have to do a little tweaking, but this is something to help. Good luck.

[ssaxamaphone]

jpatty, thank you so so so so much!

[MacMatt]

I made some little changes:

1. ET e C!e Ter rE mo TuS Fak TuS eST man nyuS: an je luS e nim do mi ni dE zjen diT dE C!e Lo al lE lu ya

2. Ter! r!a Tr!E mu iT eT Kwi e viT dum r!E Su r!E jET in yu di C!i o dE uS al lE lu ya

This is the "italian" pronunciation of Latin... like in Rome... :D

[jphilpit]

No one really knows how Latin was pronounce when it was used in ancient Rome.

As a classical scholar (more Greek than Latin) in my younger days, I feel compelled to add the following comments to the discussion:

While it's true that even the best modern classical scholar traveling via a time machine back to Rome in 10 BC would be perceived as a non-native speaker of Latin based on very subtle cues that translate into the perception of having an accent, he could probably understand the locals and be understood. We do know the pronunciation of Latin and classical Greek to a pretty good precision. Much of this is based on looking at several sources:
-- Greek texts that describe the pronunciation of Latin in terms of Greek sounds
-- Latin texts that describe the pronunciation of Greek in terms of Latin sounds
-- Latin text that describe other contemporary languages in terms of Latin sounds
-- philological understanding of how sounds change (both theoretically and actually)
-- morphotactic analysis (how sounds interact when word parts get attached into longer words)
-- etc.

And of course, there is no single Latin pronunciation, even during the Roman Empire. Both geographical location and the current century have an impact. A resident of Rome in 100 BC would probably have trouble understanding even a native speaker of Latin in northern Gaul in 100 AD.

Of course, since you're likely going to set the piece based on the conventions of what's known as "Church Latin," the above discussion of Classical Latin pronunciation is only a sidebar.

John

[Software]

Yes. A lot of educated guesses have been made.

"American Latin" misspronounces the latin "y" and WB can't do it either.

[jpatty]

:D Yes, yes, yes, but this site is to help in using the WB and SC. It is taken for granted that Latin, either Classical, or Ecclesiastical, can be somewhat difficult in proper pronunciation, but that should not stop us. To pursue the beauty of song and chant, to pursue the exploration of image and art, to pursue creative impulse and inspiration and however difficult it might seem-with an eye on the very technical manner of a language not our own, we keep moving ahead in the love of music no matter how imperfect it might seem. To seek that level, implies constant support-constant courage-constant love for that which we pursue.
It is a wonderful thing to see so many who truly are concerned in their love of music and their concern for the (proper) expression of it. Inspiration can take us to places we ordinarily would not go, but to go is to accept; to go is to learn; to go is to seek knowledge; to go is to ask for guidance and this site is so great in providing the thought and experience of others in this process. I have learned so much from this site in being new to WB and SC. Reading all the comments about the programs and hearing the music produce by the artists, compels me to move forward and however imperfectly it seems, I seek to join with those who are compelled to perfect their art and love of music.

Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet – (Horace)

[steflund]

If it´s really important for you being granted maybe asking some very educated priest pronounce it for you and it would be "kex". ;)

I´d love to help you, I guess I have an idea how it should be pronounced... also if you know any person from Romania (how´s it spelled?) they could pronounce it quite good since it is the living language closest to the antique Latin. So three "founts" could possibly make you a hint of how it should sound.

And it´s true, every time I hear American people pronounce Latin I shudder (I guess you also do when I try to speak and spell English, he-he).

[Bessinnox]

this is a link to wikipedia, it's in french but the phonetic stuffs are international I guess

http:/fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin

[Bessinnox]

try to take the latin american langage because it sounds very close to latin

http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php (http://public.research.att.com/%7Ettsweb/tts/demo.php)

[Bessinnox]

take the woman it's better

[Andrew Sigler]

They sho' is tough...

[Bessinnox]

what is tough ??

[Bessinnox]

does that have helped ??