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Jamtheguitarman
01-13-2007, 03:57 PM
Saw this film a few weeks ago and was blown away. I thought everything about it was outstanding, including the music.

so first listen to the soundtrack properly today.................WOW, it works just as well on its own as it does with the film. This could have been released as an album in its self without ever being connected to any film.

It was composed by tom tykwer (the director, needless to say i will be watching the rest of his films) johnny kilmek and reinhold heil. this is the first ive heard or watched of any of there work.


The whole thing is just incredible though, i urge everyone to check out the film and soundtrack.

anyone else heard it?

nikolas
01-13-2007, 11:41 PM
Not yet, but will do.

For futher information about Tom Tykwer: He's the guy who directed Run Lola Run, then the Warior and the princess and finally the Paradise, all three with his music almost exclusively. I do have 2/3 soundtracks from him, but now with the kids and all didn't have a chance to go and see the film. :(

Thanks for reminding me though. ;)

johncarter
01-14-2007, 03:08 AM
I heard the soundtrack and it's pretty good.
A very nice surprise,

Conducted by Simon Rattle by the way

audiochild
01-14-2007, 07:22 AM
Conducted by Simon Rattle by the way

very probable when the Berlins play :p

to the soundtrack, just heard a few tracks in my mate's car and it bored the shit out of me.
didn't hear the whole so maybe I just hit the parts I didn't like.
will have a listen again.

Jamtheguitarman
01-14-2007, 07:44 AM
Not yet, but will do.

For futher information about Tom Tykwer: He's the guy who directed Run Lola Run, then the Warior and the princess and finally the Paradise, all three with his music almost exclusively. I do have 2/3 soundtracks from him, but now with the kids and all didn't have a chance to go and see the film. :(

Thanks for reminding me though. ;)

just saw Run lola run yesterday. It could have been a really boring film but man........ are they a bunch of amazing film makers!

The soundtrack added so much to it as well, they really know how to fit music to pictures.



Conducted by Simon Rattle by the way

cool, didnt know that.




to the soundtrack, just heard a few tracks in my mate's car and it bored the shit out of me.
didn't hear the whole so maybe I just hit the parts I didn't like.
will have a listen again.

yeah, judging an album on a few tracks after 1 listen , especially a film score, probably isn't going to yield a favorable response.

I would think this soundtrack would work well enough without ever seeing the movie though.

nickysnd
01-14-2007, 10:37 AM
yeah, judging an album on a few tracks after 1 listen , especially a film score, probably isn't going to yield a favorable response.
How many times have you listened to all those tracks before yelding your favorable response? :) I think you shouldn't judge other people's responses either, for it seems to be different for each person. For instance, all my favorite musical pieces have struck me from the first listening. Same happened with my favorite films, favorite books, and favorite anythings.

I have seen Run Lola Run (BTW, stupid title-translation - why, Lola Runs wasn't good enough? For who??) and, although it features a few smart ideas, I didn't see anything special to that movie - it looks to me like a very carefully made amateur film. As about the music tracks they have applied to the film - I found them kind of "random", as I got a strong feeling that they could have used almost any other techno tracks on the market (with same bpm's), for achieving similar amateurish effect.

I think those guys really should stick with directing and film making. IME, "appropriate film music" (which is a reduntant "free gift" ;) ) only comes out from people with particular mind-sets, musical knowledge, and musical skills. The people who have those qualities are called film composers. Directors can compose music about just as much as composers can direct films.

nikolas
01-14-2007, 10:54 AM
I think that in theory I agree with you Nicky.

but it does seem that one can have an multimedia idea. An installation, an animation short, a film, a story, something... Of course nothing can be done by 1 person, but I'm sure that Tom did not enter his own studio, and wrote his own music just like that. People helped him. Same way with different arts.. Of course Sin City was co directed by Frank Miller, but let's be real, we all know who the "real" director was, even if he chose to follow almost exactly the comic strips, frame to frame.

I personally find that Tom Tykwers music is interesting the same way as most pop music. (Especially his music for the warrior and the princess where he worked with many different artists...). Probably other people could write music, just as good, and probably better, and also that he could get another techno track with the same bmp and do his job, but maybe, just maybe, he is a weird almost perfectionist. Same way as Kubric who did control several different aspects, further from the traditional directors job.

PS. In the film the warrior and the princess as well as paradise, there are certain scenes (long scenes, no edits), that follow the timing of the music exactly. Ok, this could be done with 2 people collaborating, a director and a composer, still probably it was done more...cohernetly (unless Tykwer suffers from split personality syndrome.)

:)

Jamtheguitarman
01-14-2007, 11:51 AM
How many times have you listened to all those tracks before yelding your favorable response? I think you shouldn't judge other people's responses either, for it seems to be different for each person. For instance, all my favorite musical pieces have struck me from the first listening. Same happened with my favorite films, favorite books, and favorite anythings.

sure, its obviously all subjective and people approach listening to music differently. but listening to a few tracks of a film score is dicey, you could get the few tracks on the album that are filler music or something. So i would reserve judgment unless ive heard something a few times.

im pretty much the opposite of you though, most of my favourite music takes a while to get into.


I think those guys should really stick with directing and film making. IME, "appropriate film music" (which is a reduntant "free gift" ) only comes out from people with particular mind-sets, musical knowledge, and musical skills. The people who have those qualities are called film composers. Directors can compose music about just as much as composers can direct films.

well whos to say how much impact he had on the writing process. i havnt read an interview where hes talked about it so i cant say.

All i know is i love the film and soundtrack to Perfume and Tom Tykwers influence on the music must have been pretty hefty to have his name credited as joint composer. So he should keep it up as far as im concerned.


I have seen Run Lola Run (BTW, stupid title-translation - why, Lola Runs wasn't good enough? For who??) and, although it features a few smart ideas, I didn't see anything special to that movie - it looks to me like a very carefully made amateur film.

I think the film is a strange one. It seems very much like an amateur film to showcase the talent and ideas of the film crew. So thats how i took it and In that respect i think it excels.

its not something i would want to watch again particularly or something i will think about, but i think as a piece of film making art it was brilliant.

Even the basic ideas like giving Lola red hair add so much.