Music & Water

[Scott31]

I am curious to know if anyone else has heard of this. I recently finished two books by Masaru Emoto about the impact of emotions on water through messages and music. Not too surprisingly, classical music had a very positive impact. An interesting concept!

Anyone else heard about this?

[kstevege]

Yep. I have researched A TON of metaphysical stuff over my lifetime. It has been proven that even your thoughts, alone, influence the molecular arrangement of water crystals.

I know this is WAY beyond the scope of this thread and forum, but while the door is opened up on this topic I feel I should share this with you. In all my years of research I learned this one basic fundamental truth: Directly or indirectly, consciously or subconsciously, your thoughts are VERY powerful and ALWAYS influence your surroundings and experiences. This happens whether you like it or not. Thus you should strive hard to create only pure thoughts as they will provide heavenly experiences whereas impure (thoughts tainted by greed, hatred, jealousness, revenge, you get the point) always lead to undesirable experiences. My axiom is: It is not one's actions that defines the man, but rather ones thoughts. It is the thought that precedes the action and it is the thought that provides the intention behind the action.

So, for those of us who have been experiencing bad things, you must question how you formulate your thoughts because your thought patterns influence your universe and your universe is a reflection of who you are.

The rule is really that simple yet so hard to master. Everyday, every hour, every minute, you must consistently be mindful of your thoughts until your way of pure thinking becomes natural. Put this into practice and surely you will see a change for the better in your experiences and in your life. And once you are able to achieve a level of pure thinking, and have realized the power of your thoughts, in the same way you focused your energy on the type of thoughts you should have, you must then focus your energy on producing the type of thoughts in furtherance of creation. Although you cannot see them with your eyes, once created, a thought is a real thing which originally exists outside of this time and space but which will eventually manifest into this world once it has enough energy to do so.

It is very easy for someone to live 100 years and not realize this very basic rule. With all the dramas in life you easily get caught up in a never ending loop of distraction - a distraction ironically created by your own thoughts in the first place! It is just your Ego pulling the wool over your eyes and playing games. It is threatened by this new way of thinking because once you master your thought process, the ego knows it is not needed anymore!

So, anyway, I challenge anyone who reads this to give this a try and put it into simple practical use. SO, to make this somewhat relevant to this forum, think of just one piece of software from SOUNDSONLINE that you desire but still do not possess. Now clear your mind, focus you energy on creating an image of yourself having this product. In your mind, don’t desire but actually see yourself as already having it. And not only see the image, but feel it, and experience it. And believe, without a doubt, that you do have it and that it just has to show up and be thankful to the forces providing it to you. Do this consistently throughout the day whenever you have a moment or two to devote to it. If you do this multiple times everyday the thoughts will manifest and the product will appear before you. Guaranteed.

The better you are at developing this skill of focus, visualization and concentration, the quicker the results of your thinking. This the first step into the realization of true creation. Your thoughts are, in essence, the Word referred to in many religious doctrines. You just have to know how to use them.

[Scott31]

I am not at all surprised to hear this as I was introduced to these methods a few months back. I tried a bit of an experiment myself. I very much enjoy raising Sea Monkeys. You know, those little shrimp-like creatures we used to see as kids in the back of comic books. Well, they still make them and after starting one of Mr. Emoto's books, I decided to start a new tank and write "love and gratitude" on the side. I have to say that I have never had a more successful or abundant tank in my life. Awesome stuff!

I am curious, have you done any tests with music? Let's say you are doing a score for a horrow movie like Texas Chainsaw part 75 (or the 75th remake of the first one since they keep doing them)... what happens to your vibration? You could be very positive about the music but you would be writing something incredibly dark which seems would lower your vibration. I have heard quite a bit from folks like James Ray but I have not heard anyone address this. I have heard to be careful what you put in your mind but nothing specific to being the composer. I do have some books on musical healing but have not had a chance to get to those as of yet.

Thanks for the input!
Scott

[kstevege]

James Ray!! I have been deciding on reading some of his books! He seems credible and real. Funny you should mention that. I guess that is a sign. I shall order one of his books this week!

The influence that writing dark music has on your vibration. Hmmmm. Very good question you pose. I guess this would be similar to an actor who is positive but has to play the role of an evil chracter. My intution tells me it shouldn't degrade your vibration because the essence of your thought is still positive even though it would be wearing a temporary mask.

Musical healing is not as evolved as it should be. If you can get your hands on the book called, 'The Secret Doctrine' by Madame Blasansky (I forget the correct spelling of her name) she devotes a whole chapter on the colors and vibrations of the musical scale and how it influences things. SHe essentially provides a key which needs to be studied but if interpreted correctly could open the door to some secret knowledge about the power of sound. The combination of certain frequencies produces different results and causes different effects - - kind of like the philospher stone kind of stuff, but instead of mixing potions or metals you are mixing certain, specific sound frequencies. There is also the binaural hypnosis stuff I recently read about. Interesting stuff.

Up to 2 years ago, when I was single and had all the time in the world, I was right on top of all this kind of stuff, but as fate would have it, I got married to someone with a seven year old and had a child of my own. Now I have very little time for myself to stay on top of these things and experiment like I used to. It was meant to be, I guess - I have some other things to learn now, like family values and bringing up children.

Anyway, nice topic Scott. Not sure if anyone else in this forum will read this thread, and if they do they will think we are wackos! I might have to change my forum name after this!!:p

[nikolas]

I respect all that is said here but let me add a different perspective to that.

Maybe it's not that the thoughts that we are projecting that count really, but they way we are inviting incoming input.

Lemme explain.

Simply put, if you have pure and happy thoughts, bad things that may happen to you, you may take them with a lot of salt and thus do not matter. You lost your job? Maybe it's for the better. You failed a class? Maybe for the better.

Been trained in this kind of pure thoughts, will also filter what is going on outside. So while a guy who is miserable will always moan about loosing his job, or staying behinf in class, another one, "purer" will probably be thankful that he lost his job, because now he can look for a new one without hurddles, and so on so fourth...

I think that it's called optimism... :)

[Dean]

Great thread keep it going.

Dean.

[Scott31]

Wow - thanks for the thoughts, everyone!

I certainly agree - positive attitude brings great things to us. It is so easy in todays world to be negative, stressed, frustrated, etc. When I look back at music I have written and think about what was going on in my life at the time, I see the music fits it. Now that I am looking for work as a composer, I find that I have to control it more but these days I am a very happy person - after all, I have you guys!

Thinking about the water crystals, I know the photography is not currently available to the general public but I hear they are working on that. Wouldn't it be a completely different world if we played a new composition for a jar of water, froze it and viewed the crystals before sending it on for submission?
Scott

[nickysnd]

think of just one piece of software from SOUNDSONLINE that you desire but still do not possess. ...focus you energy on creating an image of yourself having this product. ...If you do this multiple times everyday the thoughts will manifest and the product will appear before you. Guaranteed.
Now I see how come you have so many EW products. :) -

- by the power of thoughts. Naah! - Heck, you are a lawyer!!! :D

(please do excuse this silly joke, it was meant in a good spirit)

I find your post extremely intriguing, in a good sense - thoughts as entities having powers of their own. Kinda scary in the subway, with all those unknown thoughts floating around! :) No really, I try to understand this concept of independently existing thoghts, although I have serious troubles seeing what might they be made of that would grant them an independent existence, with influence on water and all.

Anyways, I got the main message - and I'd surely love to free my mind of all the negative thoughts that I'm having such hard times controlling. Also I like that approach of pure thoughts, they look like sort of healthy, I'll try some. And I think that "positive thinking" is somewhat different from this "pure thoughts" concept, and I like the latter more.

I've read a few books about traditional hindu and buddhist way of life - they seem to be consistent with this theory about thoughts. Also I've been to India and I've seen those principles working - I really was impressed, to say the least, about the cleanness and the wellbeing achieved by a "spiritual" way of living.

Finally, my take on thoughts is that they are the most basic thing that separates us humans from them animals - for better and for worse. (mostly for the better though) Yeah, I should tame them a bit, my thoughts I mean - they're sometimes such animals... :p

[kstevege]

Ineresting stuff indeed.

[Scott31]

It is so funny to me that I have known these things all my life but in separate parts. It wasn't until I saw The Secret last September that I was able to see it all together. It really all makes sense.

Since then, my life has changed quite a bit. I still have a tough time with some things like my office and the way people drive around here but I am getting much better about it.

The best part is without all that weighing on my, I have been able to write much better and more interesting pieces than I had before.

Onto the challenge that has been set... Excellent idea! I actually have been focusing on Gold and since Santa let me down... ;) I will let you know when it comes to me. :)

I am going to see James Ray in March so that should be very informative as well.

Happy thoughts, my new friends!

[Composing_automat]

I am curious to know if anyone else has heard of this. I recently finished two books by Masaru Emoto about the impact of emotions on water through messages and music. Not too surprisingly, classical music had a very positive impact.

Typical newage rubbish. Only that Japan seems to be 30 years behind the big US wave on that matter.

[Scott31]

Really? I had not heard of that until recently. One thing I wish he would go into more (at least in the books I read) was how the experiments were conducted. Would you happen to know who in America had been researching? Maybe I can find out more through their work.

Thanks,
Scott

[Software]

Hope this will open your eyes;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto

Or this:

http://theclayexperience.blogspot.com/2006/02/smorgasbord-of-pseudoscience-water.html

[Scott31]

Excellent information - thank you for posting. That was one of the reasons I wished he went more into the methods of his experiment and I admit I am a bit skeptical myself considering the lack of information. I also thought he read a lot into the crystals as well when he describes the pictures. Most important - what was missing was information on the same messages being put into different waters producing similar or exact crystals. So, I certainly don't take anything I read as fact, I just thought it was interesting.

It also lead me to questions about how healing music is written and the effects it has on us so I was curious to see if anyone else here had studied those types of things at all.

In all honesty, I think it is the power of our minds that have control over our bodies more than anything else. It is the will to survive or heal and not become victim to things like "well, I have cancer so I guess that is it." We are amazing creatures indeed. Just look at the music each of us creates on a daily basis!

[nickysnd]

I too have a strong believe in the self-healing power of human mind. Our state of mind can save our lives, it often happened in cases of accidents. When mind abandons fight, everything's lost - I've seen that with my own eyes, an extremely sad experience. Faith and hope are tremendously efficient parts of human mind. When one loses faith, or abandon hope, what is left?

I think the merit of those "experiments" with ice is not scientifical, but moral: it reminds us about the most amazing power in the universe, which is the human mind, and which has been, for unknown reasons, handed to us, like a prize, to make use of it. Have it ever occured to you people that we could have been born earthworms, or bugs, or jellyfishes? :D

[Scott31]

Don't get me started on worms - I heard about a study on flatworm learning years ago that was strange indeed.

I think you are absolutely right. The biggest difficulty, for me at least, is to realize that at all times. I find it so easy to get distracted with my job and just day to day fast paced life. I am learning, though.

I am happy to say that my Sea Monkey tank with "Love And Gratitude" written on the side is still the most thriving tank I have ever had but The Gold Orchestra still eldes me... One of these days, i will have to do music experiments with them and see how they react.

Thanks for your thoughts!!!

[Sherief83]

Why do people need physical signs in order to gain the inspiration that will make them unique? I believe it's all in the mind. I do agree that the mind is where all the secrets sleeps.

People need to realize that they need not to look with their eyes to the out side world to find inspiration. They need to look inside them selves and the only way you can look inside your self, is by imaging. The challenge that was set in this thread is excellent because it will help every one to be involved emotionally and thoughtfully in one's own imagination. You will start to see things that no one in this world has access too and man you can't wait to bring it out to the world, and most likely the world can't wait too :)

[Composing_automat]

I guess the most popular way for creativity is put two (earlier) unconnected matters together. Those matters (triggers) can come from anywhere.

[Scott31]

[QUOTE=Sherief83]Why do people need physical signs in order to gain the inspiration that will make them unique? I believe it's all in the mind. I do agree that the mind is where all the secrets sleeps.

Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself byut I find it easy to get caught up in day to day life and, no matter how great my passion for something, I get cunsumed with things that don't matter. Sometimes I will be driving home from work and just catch a beautiful desert sunset and sort of reset from my day and start fresh, come home and write something I really like.

Inspiration can come from anything and anywhere... a sunset, a scent in the air, a memory, a dream - that is what I love about it most. I think the water test is interesting because, if it is true, it shows the things we create have a much bigger inmpact than just on a CD or someone's hard drive somewhere. Even if these experiments are not true, it certainly made me look at things differently and with more optimisim towards the world in general.

[nickysnd]

I guess the most popular way for creativity is put two (earlier) unconnected matters together.
Examples, please. Name a few popular creators who use(d) this inexhaustible fountain of creativity.

[Composing_automat]

Books on creativity are full of examples.

[nickysnd]

Books on creativity are full of examples.
Kinda too general. Which books? And, again - gimme 5 top notorious examples of creators that use(d) the method of creation that you described.

[Composing_automat]

Here you can find thousands of examples:

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Afi-FI%3Aofficial&hs=wls&q=creativity+%22two+ideas%22&btnG=Hae&meta=

[nickysnd]

Here you can find thousands of examples:

http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Afi-FI%3Aofficial&hs=wls&q=creativity+%22two+ideas%22&btnG=Hae&meta=
What I kindly asked for was your personal answer. I hope your above expressed opinion is NOT based on google research...

So again - who do YOU think are those popular creators who use that brilliant method of "putting two unconnected matters together", and what are their creations based on that method? Please give me five names.

[Dave Bourke]

Why am I irresistibly reminded of the Monty Python sketch, "Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition"?

Kind regards.

[Scott31]

I think I understand what you mean by combining two ideas together and I agree there is an awful lot of that these days. Seems like a lot of people hop on the backs of other people's ideas but then some really good things have come from that as well. Like the Giga-Pet (Kidding.. really, I am just kidding about the Giga-Pet). But as long as the world moves forward, I guess it is all good.

I am not sure I quite agree with it being the most common method, although I will agree it has certainly increased in frequency.

One thing I also see a lot of is remakes of old things with new pretty wrapping paper and bows. Look at all the movies and television shows that have been redone over the years. It is one thing to perform Beethoven but another to make Scooby Doo into a movie because no one could come up with something original (ok, I will be honest here, had I been offered the soundtrack, I probably wouldn't be so annoyed with the concept). I just don't understand that - with so many talented and creative people out there, why are we rehashing so many old things?

Monty Python - now THAT was a classic!

[kstevege]

I just don't understand that - with so many talented and creative people out there, why are we rehashing so many old things?


Simple. Because mainstream Budweiser America will eat it up and the film developers know it. Thats why. It is very rare for truly authentic "work of art" films to be produced when profit is not determinable. The potential of our talented and creative people are obstructed by lack of funds and investors don't want to gamble their money on such ideas. Scooby Doo is a sure thing because Budweiser America will eat it up. Thus we get a ton of rehash (Scooby Doo, Mission Impossible, Charlies Angels, etc You get the point). Sometimes we get lucky and it can be entertaining. But for the most part mainstream movies/music sucks.

Goerge Lucas is a great example of someone who had the balls to stick to his vision and took the necessary risks to produce something when profit was not determinable. He used his creativity wisely with his business decisions as well.