Needed Immediately

[tmhuud]

Music required: Approx. 30 seconds or less.

Someone intimately familiar with Howard Shores score to the movie "Big".
Client in Florida requires an exact duplicate built of the fortune telling machine "Zoltar" in the movie "Big" starring Tom Hanks.

Music is required to play a FANFARE (Howard Shore like) when the 'player' is given his 'wish' card.

Payment: $10,000 US.

Submit already composed 'fanfare' ish mp3 to AllanLmft@aol.com (submit only ONE track)
The track you submit should be something already in your library that is fanfare like. DO NOT compose the Shore sound -a-like at this time. We will contact you for the job AFTER I listen to ALL mp3's. Cut-off to submit is midnight Sept 23rd Pacific standard time.

Thank you for your time,

Cheers,

-Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud

"Please keep discussions free of bickering with each other. We are here to help each other get the best use out of our software products. If you can help some one with a problem or you have some tips please post an article." -Doug Rogers

[Dannthr]

So for the submission we should send in something that is like it but not it so that later we can make something that is it?

Why not just submit something that is it now?

I'm confused, man!

[tmhuud]

So for the submission we should send in something that is like it but not it so that later we can make something that is it?

Why not just submit something that is it now?

I'm confused, man!

We don't want people writing a cue that will not get used or purchased. If you *want* to do a short piece be my guest. However if you have a fanfare to something else - that will do for now as a submission. Later after we pick the 'work for hire' we will work with them to tailor it for the game. We prefer someone who does know the soundtrack as we would like to keep it in that vein. The submission shows us that those submitting understand the proper tonal ballance and something about arrangment and orchestration. We would rather *not* have to work with them to that extent. (This presupposes an excellant handle on East West Orchestral libraries.)

Please feel free to ask any questions that come up before submission.

Cheers,


-Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud

[bobbyem]

The Big track is great, does it need to be that Gypsy style?

[Jamtheguitarman]

Can i ask why you are hiring someone to do this, why not do it yourself (or Terry Huud)?

[tmhuud]

Can i ask why you are hiring someone to do this, why not do it yourself (or Terry Huud)?

We have Zero time (absolutely none) We will take a finders fee however. (10%) This track may take some time to perfect as the client is *picky*

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

"Please keep discussions free of bickering with each other. We are here to help each other get the best use out of our software products. If you can help some one with a problem or you have some tips please post an article." -Doug Rogers

[tmhuud]

The Big track is great, does it need to be that Gypsy style?

The *fanfare* may have a slight Gypsy style influence but not much. If you are intimate with the score you will hear that the only real Gypsy style influence is when the game plays. The underscore has no Gypsy style and we are after more of an underscore feel.

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[nikolas]

Ok

I am interested but need to ask.

The track on the movie Big (88), with Tom hanks, where Zoltan plays, both times in the begining and the end is:
NOT a Fanfare
NOT in gypsy style

It's a rather creepy waltz...

I just need to realise what we're talking about here

[tmhuud]

Ok

I am interested but need to ask.

The track on the movie Big (88), with Tom hanks, where Zoltan plays, both times in the begining and the end is:
NOT a Fanfare
NOT in gypsy style

It's a rather creepy waltz...

I just need to realise what we're talking about here

That is correct. Their is *no* fanfare in the movie. If you are intimate with the score then you can *create* a fanfare for Zoltar. In other words imagine if Howard SHore wrote a fanfare for when The kid *got his wish*. What would it sound like in the context of the already existing underscore?

-Cheers,

-Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

"Please keep discussions free of bickering with each other. We are here to help each other get the best use out of our software products. If you can help some one with a problem or you have some tips please post an article." -Doug Rogers

[nikolas]

Brilliant! Thanks :)

[fongi]

Wait a minute let me get this right $10.000 for a 30 second fanfare, oh yea sure :D :D :D :D

[Pietro]

Hehe, competition is rising :D

+1 soon.

- Piotr

[Mysteerie]

Wait a minute let me get this right $10.000 for a 30 second fanfare, oh yea sure :D :D :D :D

Yeah, this sounds a little suspicious...

[Jamtheguitarman]

170 submissions coming your way if the scoring competition is any indicator!

[tmhuud]

Wait a minute let me get this right $10.000 for a 30 second fanfare, oh yea sure :D :D :D :D

Music for world rights tv spots from 30 sec - 1 minute can pay 10-15k. Dont underestimate the amount of work a project like this can entail. As I said this client is extremely picky. They should be - it's their money.

Pay scales are all over the place in this business. This happens to *look* like one of the better ones. Yes - an entire show for say the sci-fi network may have a creative fee equal to what this job pays.

I can not promise that the next job I post will be this good. I may post something next week that says I need 3 minutes of cartoon music for a flat fee of $500.00.

If the work for hire is dissatified with the dollar amount we will gladly take a larger finders fee. ;)

Those suspicious need not apply. More chances for the rest.

Cheers,

Allan

[Pietro]

Thanks for an interesting opportunity anyway!

- Piotr

[Crossingsound]

tmhuud
Thanks for posting your job needs here dude! For all who are wondering, that is not a completly uncommon price for a big buyout. I just wanted to thank you for posting here looking to help out your fellow composers, some great talent. Best of luck to all.

[tmhuud]

tmhuud
Thanks for posting your job needs here dude! For all who are wondering, that is not a completly uncommon price for a big buyout. I just wanted to thank you for posting here looking to help out your fellow composers, some great talent. Best of luck to all.

It's my pleasure. Over the years Terry has worked with a number of composers. Still does. At times those composers become unavailable or go onto other things. I hope to add to the pool of talent here. I get a good sense from the forum that people here are (for the most part) level headed, hard working, sincere, talented and like to help out others. I get a sense of that from East West themselves. I've good experiences here on this forum and have run into some truely good folks who unselfishly give of their time to help out others.

We won't always agree but that's what makes more 'stimulating conversation".

So far all emails have been very gracious and positive. For those that are so negative and cynical I really cant see how that can go towards helping ones career. It's a small community really and eventually everyone gets to know everyone.

This job is in other forums and job boards but I am hoping that someone here will get the gig. If not there will be more to come.

-Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[fongi]

tmhuud
Thanks for posting your job needs here dude! For all who are wondering, that is not a completly uncommon price for a big buyout. I just wanted to thank you for posting here looking to help out your fellow composers, some great talent. Best of luck to all.

Sorry no offence meant, I´m just realistic ! with the going rate at $1000 bucks a minute I just can´t understand why anyone would pay $ 20.000 a minute !!!! i.e. $10.000 for 30 seconds (or less) and from a no name? doesn´t make any business sense at all, so let´s keep it real, if the offer is genuine then super, thankyou Mr Leung and good luck to the happy winner :D

[nikolas]

I actually have very little doubt that the offer is NOT real, Chris. I just can't see why anyone would lie to that extend...

[Dannthr]

Actually, I've seen this kind of pay for buy outs too, fongi.

Besides, he's not even asking for new music--just if you've got some fanfares laying around, show him what you can do. Personally, it seems more of an interesting exercise to make a fanfare from that waltz--I really like that music.

[Pietro]

Suddenly, everybody will become the greatest fan of this soundtrack ;)

- Piotr

[Dannthr]

I don't actually like the underscore that much, it's very bland late 80s/early 90s kid-comedy-with-a-heart-ish. I suppose appropriately enough, the Zoltar scenes are the most interesting with regards to the soundtrack.

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

Sorry no offence meant, I´m just realistic ! with the going rate at $1000 bucks a minute I just can´t understand why anyone would pay $ 20.000 a minute !!!! i.e. $10.000 for 30 seconds (or less) and from a no name? doesn´t make any business sense at all, so let´s keep it real, if the offer is genuine then super, thankyou Mr Leung and good luck to the happy winner :D

Well I would assume you don't retain the rights, therefore it's more. Right?

[tmhuud]

I don't actually like the underscore that much, it's very bland late 80s/early 90s kid-comedy-with-a-heart-ish. I suppose appropriately enough, the Zoltar scenes are the most interesting with regards to the soundtrack.

Actually I am not a fan of the score either. It is my *least* favorite Shore piece...

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[tmhuud]

Well I would assume you don't retain the rights, therefore it's more. Right?

That is correct.

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[tmhuud]

May I inquire as to who the MODERATOR is for this thread category?

-Terry Michael Huud

[Dannthr]

There are moderators? I thought this was the lord-of-the-flies of forums. :P

[SBallard]

There are actually 8 moderators Terry:

Doug Rogers, Stefan Leiste, Rhys Moody, Nick Phoenix, Jennifer Collado, Jonathan Kranz, Stefan Podell, Nicholas Cardinal

If you go to the very bottom of the Other Music Discussion page you will see their names and will be able to get in contact with any one of them.

[Armadillo]

I presume it's the music from 7.30 min. in this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7d0Z3Y62WA

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

Allan,

Is it possible that if I already submitted something, that I could maybe writing something specific and send it as well?

The piece I sent you doesn't quite fit what you asked, and I believe I could give a much better example of my abilities if I were to write something that was as little as 30 seconds.

[tmhuud]

There are actually 8 moderators Terry:

Doug Rogers, Stefan Leiste, Rhys Moody, Nick Phoenix, Jennifer Collado, Jonathan Kranz, Stefan Podell, Nicholas Cardinal

If you go to the very bottom of the Other Music Discussion page you will see their names and will be able to get in contact with any one of them.

Thank You. Much appreciated.

--Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

If anyone has conducted a Beethoven performance, and then doesn't have to go to an osteopath, then there's something wrong. -Simon Rattle

[tmhuud]

I presume it's the music from 7.30 min. in this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7d0Z3Y62WA

Thats the fortune telling machine yes. Please read my posts in this thread to get an idea as to what the music composed for the 'game' should be.

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[tmhuud]

Allan,

Is it possible that if I already submitted something, that I could maybe writing something specific and send it as well?

The piece I sent you doesn't quite fit what you asked, and I believe I could give a much better example of my abilities if I were to write something that was as little as 30 seconds.

Nathan,

I have not listened to any of the submissions yet - but will on the 23rd. If you would like me to substitute a different track of yours for the one submitted I can do that.

--Allan Leung
Assistant to Composer Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud
www.imdb.com/name/nm0404698/

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

So to clarify. If the piece I sent you demonstrates good brass, but is dark, and is in a minor key, that's not what you want right?

I didn't know if you were looking for people that could utilize the samples they have to the fullest (realism wise) or if we know how to orchestra a happy fanfare. Because I'd have to write a happy fanfare, but have a dark pieces with blasting horns that sound great to me.

Sorry for the questions.

[tmhuud]

So to clarify. If the piece I sent you demonstrates good brass, but is dark, and is in a minor key, that's not what you want right?

I didn't know if you were looking for people that could utilize the samples they have to the fullest (realism wise) or if we know how to orchestra a happy fanfare. Because I'd have to write a happy fanfare, but have a dark pieces with blasting horns that sound great to me.

Sorry for the questions.


I'll listen to both.

Allan Leung
Assistant to composer Tery Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com
www.MySpace.com/terryhuud

[Bessinnox]

I sent my submission yesterday did you receive it ?

[tmhuud]

I sent my submission yesterday did you receive it ?

Yes we did. Thank you.

Cheers,

[tmhuud]

Zoltar- a work in progress I'd say!

[iLoked]

Zoltar- a work in progress I'd say!

So.. did someone get the job or..? :o

K

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

That looks great.

Also, if you could at least let us know when the position is decided that would be great.

[tmhuud]

That looks great.

Also, if you could at least let us know when the position is decided that would be great.

I certainly will. Will try and do better and throw some stats out as well...

[ray kemp]

Oh look it's the 17th October already

[MrAlex]

Looks like I missed this one... Do these sort of jobs come around often?

[Jeff Hayat]

Looks like I missed this one... Do these sort of jobs come around often?

Oh, about twice a week.

[Bessinnox]

It would be great to create a new topic with all jobs opportunities

I didn't get this one

[MrAlex]

That sounds like a good idea actually.

[tmhuud]

i apoligize for not doing this sooner. Been really sick and still haveing to work everyday.

First a very big THANK YOU to all those that posted music and especially to those that went the extra mile to compose something close. I know that was not following instructions to the letter but sometimes rules get bent in a direction that can benifit those doing the bending.

The job did get awarded to someone but as hard as I pushed for an East West guy/gal it went another way. However THAT said it was REAL close and the top 6 of 25 entrants are listed below. (I DO hope I was able to respond to EVERYONE personally but *if* i did not please let me know as I do try and stay as organized as possible.)

Top 6:

Pietro
Dean Valentine
Brad Menic
Andy Sigler
John Rodriguez
Wendell Yuponce


Sorry to not have your Forum handles as in most cases it was not known to me. (if using names is a violation of any forum rules then the mods may delete this post or edit is as they see fit - I just didnt know how else to give credit where credit is due and a few stats never hurt...)

I did receive some greif for posting the job on a public forum as the boss received some rather odd emails. I AM looking into another way to post job opportunities in the future so I will keep you all posted.

Keep smiling and keep making music for yourself as well as for others. Many of you will make it * if you haven't already!* - there is no doubt about it. It's just a mater of time.

Cheers,

[fongi]

Please excuse me when I, LOL :rolleyes:

[MrAlex]

Yeah as if any of you guys have *made it*... to... wherever *it* is... chortle and / or guffaw.

[Nathan Allen Pinard]

I was thinking I should've broken the rules as well and just created something new for the job itself, but honestly after watching Big several times it was quite hard to see what you actually wanted since a Fanfare can go either way. (light or dark)

I just hope my entry interests you for any future jobs.

[Andrew Sigler]

Siguitar (Andy Sigler) says thanks for the listen!

[V o n h ö g e n]

(...) honestly after watching Big several times it was quite hard to see what you actually wanted since a Fanfare can go either way. (light or dark)



Nathan, you should have purchased this (http://www.hammacher.com/publish/10978.asp?cm_ven=CJ&cm_pla=1781363&cm_ite=Hammacher+Schlemmer&cm_cat=1511450) machine from Hammacher Schlemmer before submitting any music. I bought mine a week before the deadline for only $8,999.95 (plus an extra $500 for s/h). It told me not to participate, so I didn't submit any music. (Always trust guys with a Crystal Ball!) It saved me a lot of work, fortunately. :)

If you think the price of this fortune teller machine is too high, then you should know that it comes with an "Unconditional Lifetime Guarantee", which means that you can get your quarter back, if it turns out that you would have gotten the $10,000.00 gig after all, should you have submitted your music. Sounds fair, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Anyways, it was very kind of Allan to offer this opportunity to our forum. Thanks, Allan!
Please, keep posting these job opportunities here, I am sure Zoltar will allow me to submit next time. :cool:

- Jerome

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Zoltar.
This is Zoltar, the classic animatronic fortune teller found in arcades, that stands 6 1/2' tall, and augurs a spoken and printed fortune for you. Richly detailed with a handlebar mustache and beard, a gold head wrap, gold shirt, paisley vest, and jewelry, the bust of Zoltar stands in a solid wheeled cabinet of oak with birch veneers, finished in gold-and black-painted trim, and is surrounded by three panes of tempered glass. Zoltar acknowledges your presence and invites you to approach him. Once you insert a quarter (coins may be removed), Zoltar nods his head up and down as his crystal ball illuminates and he sweeps his hand back and forth. Zoltar provides 16 different spoken fortunes and dispenses one of 23 different printed fortunes in the form of a paper card; 2,000 fortune cards are included. The fortune is dispensed from the front of the cabinet.

77" H x 27" W x 25" D. (225 lbs.) $8,999.95 + $500.00 (t)

[tomhowardbright]

Keep smiling and keep making music for yourself as well as for others. Many of you will make it * if you haven't already!* - there is no doubt about it. It's just a mater of time.


Good advice. But, are we supposed to have heard of you? Btw, I'm sure you'll make it one day, along with the rest of us.;)

[tmhuud]

Good advice. But, are we supposed to have heard of you? Btw, I'm sure you'll make it one day, along with the rest of us.;)

I'm hoping!

[Liam]

DAMN....I just saw this post for the first time today...the 24th.....lol...sigh :(

[BradMenic]

Allan,

Thank you again on behalf of everyone for the chance of 1- Getting a contract and 2- Getting in the buisness.

It's not everyday that you see composers share their contracts that way, even if they are tight on schedule. So a great thanks for the listen and I am sure that many of you guys on the forums posted some really good stuff as well. Great job everyone and great job to Terry and Allan as well.

Cheers!

Brad

[jordan]

The *fanfare* may have a slight Gypsy style influence but not much. If you are intimate with the score you will hear that the only real Gypsy style influence is when the game plays.