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Old 03-15-2007, 12:29 AM
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:48 AM
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Treating it the exact way as I would treat another post, just to be clear...

First of all I like it!

I find that the orchestration with the strings and the solo strings in particular sound pretty nice and well made. Congrats to the orchestrator. The theme is very convincing for me and the mid/high register works very well with the bell like notes. Rythmically it is fine as is, and additionally the long notes and slow tempo make a convincing tempo map (which I don't know if you tweaked for the post production or not). But it does sound a lot like someone playing, so a very well made rendering.

What I find rather... dull, sorry Ican't use any other word, is that the track remains the same for the whole part of it. The piano keeps playing the same technique with just a very little variation towards the middle (golden ratio?) and the strings follow the piano pace to pace, only to have a little enrichmeent just before the solo part. In addition, being a solo piano concerto, there is not solo part (piano playing alone).

There feels to be little purpose in this composition, as there is no leading, no going anywhere.

Other than that a very fine work. A not cacophonus at all tomy taste, though my development as a composer would be hugely different I reckon... I would include a resolution at some, otherwise the audience will tire up for 10 min of slow evenly paced music with little changes...

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Thanks Nikolas,

Hope that some day we will be able to be composers and then could sensibly transform the midi file to realize all the human needs.

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First of all I don´t like it ! it has no harminic structure no form no nothing, sorry it sounds like my cat walking over the keys. If you had to give an analysis to whoever regarding the harmony you´d have a problem. I´m not quite sure why Nikolas say´s he likes it and then goes on to tell you everything that´s wrong with it ! what exactly is it you like Nikolas ?? Chris

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I find that the orchestration with the strings and the solo strings in particular sound pretty nice and well made. Congrats to the orchestrator. The theme is very convincing for me and the mid/high register works very well with the bell like notes. Rythmically it is fine as is, and additionally the long notes and slow tempo make a convincing tempo map (which I don't know if you tweaked for the post production or not). But it does sound a lot like someone playing, so a very well made rendering.
That's why Chris.

Additionally, not all music can be treated by harmonic analysis alone. Sure it's not the best example of harmony this piece, but on the other hand it's not a choral, it's a piano concerto. It has a loose structure (which I did stress as the weak point of synesthesia), but the series the piano is following is providing, at least to my ears a rather coherent result.

Not that it's a masterpiece, but I did enjoy the aesthetics of this one actually (still I repeat it turns a little dull after a while because of the lack of changes, or the micro changes happening, and not major ones, which could be useful).

I provided my points so that Software can work on these, hopefully.

Software: could I see the image please? Even in PM?
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Software: could I see the image please? Even in PM?
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First of all I don´t like it ! it has no harminic structure no form no nothing, sorry it sounds like my cat walking over the keys. If you had to give an analysis to whoever regarding the harmony you´d have a problem.
OK:

"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail." (Maslow's Hammer)
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Now that´s good !
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I really like it!
Fongi, try just this experiment. Go at the piano playing notes at random. You' ll see that in someways and in some points, you'll do cadences that resemble something of the tonal harmony and in other parts something that is really off-tonality. This is the reason that forced Mr Schoenberg to write down his "twelve tone" method. In this way he could identify a system that allowed him to have this kind of consistency in his so called "atonal" music.

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Anyway, congratulation for your music software..!
This is the first automated computing music software, that truly convince me...

I' m listening even to some of almost diatonic pieces, and they reminds me something of Arvo Part, and so...

Paolo
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