Why composers give names for their pieces?

[Composing_automat]

Originally Posted by MrAlex

Because I want to.

Yes, but why? To bluff the audience and critics?

[XGener8or]

Originally Posted by Composing_automat

Why not only
piece 1, piece 2, piece 3 ...

Or
opus 1, opus 2 ....

Why using words having meaning when the pieces can't have any?

That would show a complete lack of imagination

I always have stories in my mind for the music, and give proper names to the music according to what is "happening in the story" even if it is not a real story, just in my mind.

Much nicer to have a "The March of the Undead Warriors" than "Piece4"

[persentio]

Or

because music doesn't have semanctics or meaning, doesn't represent anything, composers try to give some pseudomeaning to their pieces ...
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So very very untrue for composers like me.

If you take a listen to Australis, listen to some orchestrated pieces like "The little clockmaker" and "Turning Point". They are not meaningless pieces. They have been so painstakingly orchestrated as well as had carefully chosen instrument sounds to go with the piece to tell a story; to depict an image. The titles represent a little snapshot of that piece.

[MrAlex]

No, tell the truth, the titles are there merely to create a hypnotic suggestion in the mind of the listener, so that when they hear the music the suggestion will take root and influence any visual imagery and cause hallucinations.

You fucking evil bastards, how dare you name music! How dare you deceive and twist the minds of the poor, downtrodden, naive listener by GIVING A SONG A NAME!

How very dare you.

Give me a break!

[persentio]

Why not only
piece 1, piece 2, piece 3 ...

Or
opus 1, opus 2 ....

Why using words having meaning when the pieces can't have any?

Can't have any? That simply means you aren't putting any effort or imagination or creativity or even love into your pieces then. You may be living ON music but you are not

Originally Posted by teraslasch

LIVING, BREATHING

music.

[MrAlex]

Dude, I should have added a sarcasm warning to my post. I am agreeing with everything you said, and expressing my frustration at simply not being able to understand for the life of me why Composing Automat is being critical of us.

I basically feel like he is trying to tell us that we ARE evil twisted freaks who get our kicks out of deceiving people, so in a moment of blind wrath I posted the perspective I feel he is trying to force upon us.

If this has upset you I am sorry, but I don't know how to approach his perspective. It just seems ridiculous to think that someone is questioning why we name songs!

Doesn't it?

[nickysnd]

Originally Posted by MrAlex

Composing Automaton,

What is your motivation for this discussion?

Uhmm... perhaps - trashing music, as usual ?

[persentio]

Originally Posted by MrAlex

Dude, I should have added a sarcasm warning to my post. I am agreeing with everything you said, and expressing my frustration at simply not being able to understand for the life of me why Composing Automat is being critical of us.

I am reaaaaallly very very sorry about that MrAlex. I am quite bad at picking out sarcasm and everything from text... Sincere and heartfelt apologies from me to you.

but I don't know how to approach his perspective. It just seems ridiculous to think that someone is questioning why we name songs!

Doesn't it?

And yes from my previous post which I have already edited, I find it absolutely ridiculous.

[MrAlex]

Originally Posted by nickysnd

Uhmm... perhaps - trashing music, as usual ?

Yes, perhaps, but I just gotta hear him have the self awareness and decency to be able to say it for himself. I'm all for judging a person based on observed actions but I do enjoy reading a persons self assessment.

I don't know why, perhaps I am a masochist

In truth I simply try my hardest to understand perspectives regardless of how offensive to my "common sense".

If this carrying on of these distasteful discussions is annoying you then I am sorry, don't worry if I don't get some sense out of him soon I'll just ignore him.

[MrAlex]

Originally Posted by persentio

I am reaaaaallly very very sorry about that MrAlex. I am quite bad at picking out sarcasm and everything from text... Sincere and heartfelt apologies from me to you.

It is really alright Persentio, it was good to see the passion with which you stand by your views.

I'd hate to see popular music releases go something like this:
Computer makes music. Automatically generated filename from random seed = "Buttock Cleavage"
Critic reviews rate music = Acceptable.
Public acceptability rating = 85%

Time to next release: 35 seconds...