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Hey guys,

It's been a while I remember posting here a little mock up I did for a piece I've been working on, and now I'm happy to share with you a little excerpt from the concert. This is the last movement of the oratorio based on Milosz poems, written for the 100th anniversary of his birth.

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The full recording is going to be released soon, so keep in touch on Facebook if you're interested in listening to the whole thing

Hope you like it!
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Wow, how did I miss this? And how come noone has commented so far?!

Great stuff, Wlad - I like it very much. Those pictures of you conducting was from this oratiorio, right? Would it be a problem to share some notes for this excerpt? Much appreciated!

Thanks so much for sharing that - would love to hear it in its entirety!
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Awesomness dude...Brilliant Writing..thats a 5 star from me.
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Great writing Wlad and great performances. Can't really elaborate more than saying it sounds brilliant
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Ok, this is a serious piece, commissioned and performed, so I was listening to this more critically, as a concert goer/cd buyer.

It opens almost as Brahms. It quickly turns into something else, but the first 3 minutes are well written. Then follows a part that doesn't work for me. Performance is sloppy and there is very little movement and development. Perhaps if I had a text with a translation, this could have added to my understanding. That lasts up to 6:00 or so, when the soprano gets back a lyrical line, and the orchestration gets more subtle. Then follows a waltz (6/8?), which gets the tempo going, but also diverts the composition a bit to a mix between Debussy and Bacharach, which vaguely recalls the opening in characters. The louder, more dissonant part that follows, is again rather static and sloppy. The uneven sound mix doesn't aid. This part is actually quite annoying, until the dynamics return to a normal level at 12:40, and the melody and textures start moving again, leading to a more Romantic style, where the high pedal point cleverly keeps the tension while the rest sounds rather comforting.

Overall, the style is a bit mixed, modern, Impressionistic and Romantic, with a hint of the atomic age, but effective. It lacks in the climactic parts, but makes up for it in the more delicate parts, where it treats the text as good as I can judge without understanding it. The mix and performance could be better. Orchestra and choir seem to have their own time, and the soloists' vibrato in the louder parts is not to my taste. The strings, on the other hand, are wonderful.

I have been critical, but I'd say this is a great accomplishment. An oratorio is a difficult thing to write. I'm hoping to hear more from you.
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Wow, this was awesome. Congrats.
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Ok, this is a serious piece, commissioned and performed, so I was listening to this more critically, as a concert goer/cd buyer.

It opens almost as Brahms. It quickly turns into something else, but the first 3 minutes are well written. Then follows a part that doesn't work for me. Performance is sloppy and there is very little movement and development. Perhaps if I had a text with a translation, this could have added to my understanding. That lasts up to 6:00 or so, when the soprano gets back a lyrical line, and the orchestration gets more subtle. Then follows a waltz (6/8?), which gets the tempo going, but also diverts the composition a bit to a mix between Debussy and Bacharach, which vaguely recalls the opening in characters. The louder, more dissonant part that follows, is again rather static and sloppy. The uneven sound mix doesn't aid. This part is actually quite annoying, until the dynamics return to a normal level at 12:40, and the melody and textures start moving again, leading to a more Romantic style, where the high pedal point cleverly keeps the tension while the rest sounds rather comforting.

Overall, the style is a bit mixed, modern, Impressionistic and Romantic, with a hint of the atomic age, but effective. It lacks in the climactic parts, but makes up for it in the more delicate parts, where it treats the text as good as I can judge without understanding it. The mix and performance could be better. Orchestra and choir seem to have their own time, and the soloists' vibrato in the louder parts is not to my taste. The strings, on the other hand, are wonderful.

I have been critical, but I'd say this is a great accomplishment. An oratorio is a difficult thing to write. I'm hoping to hear more from you.
Hello TGV!!! Hello to all. I'll post about two things. The first is the music that I heard the second of longer perspective is that any criticism.
I start from what I heard. This is a very good musical composition and will generally agree with the TGV but more on that to write an oratorio is not so easy.
More generally, however, like music and like performance shows a thorough knowledge of form and professionalism!

Now to the thing of criticism. To make a critique is both democratic and the other subjective. The form of the oratorio has evolved through different eras in the history of music. Evolved so form i mean morfology and orchestration. Therefore to get a process to criticize should be aware of the many factors yloipoioun every time the idea of ​​the oratorio as a composition. Not everyone likes the same pattern of a very beautiful woman of the 1800 season with a woman of the 2012 season ... So the force of criticism easily hidden traps when they become more specific and particularly when we are deficient in examples and comparisons of self-evident. Therefore, a great composer and he has a share of poor or inadequate musical composition as a whole musical work. We're all not always so happy and not always so inventive ... And we will never know the exact combination that created a musical composition...

I hope TGV this message does not create enemies against me both a moderate command of English and for everything else.

With much joy and smile for all of us who make up the arsenal of symphonic music!

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Hey guys,

It's been a while I remember posting here a little mock up I did for a piece I've been working on, and now I'm happy to share with you a little excerpt from the concert. This is the last movement of the oratorio based on Milosz poems, written for the 100th anniversary of his birth.

LINK

The full recording is going to be released soon, so keep in touch on Facebook if you're interested in listening to the whole thing

Hope you like it!
Hello to all. I'll post about two things. The first is the music that I heard the second of longer perspective is that any criticism.
I start from what I heard. This is a very good musical composition and will generally agree with the TGV but more on that to write an oratorio is not so easy.
More generally, however, like music and like performance shows a thorough knowledge of form and professionalism!

Now to the thing of criticism. To make a critique is both democratic and the other subjective. The form of the oratorio has evolved through different eras in the history of music. Evolved so form i mean morfology and orchestration. Therefore to get a process to criticize should be aware of the many factors yloipoioun every time the idea of ​​the oratorio as a composition. Not everyone likes the same pattern of a very beautiful woman of the 1800 season with a woman of the 2012 season ... So the force of criticism easily hidden traps when they become more specific and particularly when we are deficient in examples and comparisons of self-evident. Therefore, a great composer and he has a share of poor or inadequate musical composition as a whole musical work. We're all not always so happy and not always so inventive ... And we will never know the exact combination that created a musical composition...

I hope this message does not create enemies against me both a moderate command of English and for everything else.

With much joy and smile for all of us who make up the arsenal of symphonic music!


Nice job and performance of orchestra.
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Fabulous work wlad !!!
Very expressive music !
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