Hollywood Brass update feature requests

[Mr. Anxiety]

Let's start a list for the EW people:


01. Option of cc Control of level of stac/marc/accent in the "legslurAccent" patches to make them way more useful. The current velocity control is not configured right for my uses and would need to be user tweakable in order for it to be. cc Control would solve this without having to open Play up to users.

02. Keyswitched instruments would still be helpful in certain cases..... if anything, to maintain compatability with other programs as well as allowing one track useage in our DAW.

Mr A

[NicolasRoy]

I think you should rename your thread to "HB" instead of "HP". EWLurker made a typo on the other forum...
Cause with this title I had the impression that you are proposing updates for your HP workstation ;-)

[Mr. Anxiety]

Admin or Moderators


Can you change the title of this thread to "HB Feature Requests", there's a typo in it currently.

Thx,

Mr A

[Nick Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Mr. Anxiety

Let's start a list for the EW people:


01. Option of cc Control of level of stac/marc/accent in the "legslurAccent" patches to make them way more useful. The current velocity control is not configured right for my uses and would need to be user tweakable in order for it to be. cc Control would solve this without having to open Play up to users.

02. Keyswitched instruments would still be helpful in certain cases..... if anything, to maintain compatability with other programs as well as allowing one track useage in our DAW.

Mr A

Why is the current velocity controlled accent not configured right? Velocity control can also function like a cc from your sequencer by the way.

[Mr. Anxiety]

The velocity curve you are using to track the volume of the Accent samples is not set the way I would want it set. It gets too loud too soon....... I usually don't have the first 00-32 (pp-p) play the accent at all. This is most evident with the solo Trumpet. If you play it softly with cc1 at its low point, the Accent is really loud comparatively and sounds unnatural. If this was user configurable, everyone would have a chance to dial this in to meet their playing touch/controller velocity curve, etc. Since Play is a closed system, using cc control is the only way to do it.

Question, is there dynamic layer control of the Accent part of the LegSlurAccent being controlled by the cc1 as well?

I totally think having the accent samples part of this patch are essential, but the way everyone plays this part of it is extremely varied and need to be user defineable.

Mr A

[saschak]

I don't realy get your point Mr. A. You control the marc/stac part of the patch with your velocity and the sustain/legato with the modwheel. This causes the flexibility of those patches. The thing, that could be useful though, would be to not play the accent sample on the very low velocities, for example your 00-32. But to control the accent with CC1 as well as the sustain note is nonsense.

[Mr. Anxiety]

Be nice saschak, and understand my point more clearly please.

I'm not suggesting cc1 control Accent velocity and dynamics, but another cc controller control Accent velocity, so everyone can have their own velocity curve for this, as opposed to the way it is set now, which doesn't work for me and it sounds like you as well. To have little to no Accent at 00-32 would be achieved if it was on cc2, for example.

I only suggest a cc controller since having Play opened to user adjusting of the velocity cureve is not an option at this point. Yes, ideally it would be done with velocity..........

Got a better idea, would love to hear it?

Mr A

[saschak]

Ok, but this would make the velocity control completely dispensable for that kind of patches. If I think of my workflow in the matrix editior of Cubase, i would need another controller lane beside the CC1 to be open all the time, altough I could abandon it, because I see the velocity values of the played notes already with that notes in the piano roll - and I can adjust them right away.

But I think I understand you now. You have no problem with the velocity by itself but you can't play exactly what you want to have with your keyboard, so you want another controller to be more accurate with those patches. However, at this point, I would recommend to implement a complete controller setup option into the PLAY engine to adjust every midi Controller, Vel Curve etc. In this special case we only talk about the accent patches in Hollywood Brass but there are far more issues like the establishment of CC1 and CC11 in Hollywood Strings and so on (For example I would like to have the option to use my BC (CC2) for some things and YES, I know I can do MIDI Transformation inside my DAW to achieve this, but its quite inconvenient) So instead of implementing "user-specific" patches, it would be better to simply allow the user to setup his patches as required.

[Mr. Anxiety]

"So instead of implementing "user-specific" patches, it would be better to simply allow the user to setup his patches as required."

Absolutely Saschak, This would be the best solution....... EW isn't offering to open this up in PLAY for us.

We need to keep this thread up top for others to add their ideas/ requests......... moderators?

Thanks,

Mr A

[JijGaat]

I'd like the jazz trombone to be updated, but I guess that is already taken care of. I have found some pitch issues in 2 patches. Stupid thing is I forgot to write it down. I believe one was a C3 that sounded flat.