One question for users of Hollywood Strings

[studioseyur]

Please tell me - what patch of HS you would use for play this melody?

[Tretyakov Stanislav]

Up\Dn bow,,, Longs - any patch with RR. And legato RR too I think)

[saschak]

Staccato on the Bow or maybe Slur stac

[studioseyur]

Originally Posted by Tretyakov Stanislav

Up\Dn bow,,, Longs - any patch with RR. And legato RR too I think)

Not..

Originally Posted by saschak

Staccato on the Bow or maybe Slur stac

Not..

[Pietro]

Short Tight -> Marc Shrt RRx4

You could also try some of the marc legato patches from legato folder.

Detache has never been easy to reproduce. There even is no dedicated patch in any library, that I know, for detache. But you can use marcato patches as a workaround.

- Piotr

[Anssi]

Hmm, but there is a detache patch for every string section in HS. 01 Long > 1st Violins Detache RR KSFP Ni.ewi for example. Does sound different than just a sustain patch....

[studioseyur]

Originally Posted by Pietro

Detache has never been easy to reproduce. There even is no dedicated patch in any library, that I know, for detache.

You're absolutely right Pietro! None of the existing libraries have detache, it's fact! Probably it's really impossible to do.. ( therefore this violinist so sad..) But! Hollywood Strings it's not a just strings library, its the best strings library in the world! (Im right?) And all that this library should have more - detache. 30% of all violin music from Bach to Prokofiev and ballads Bocelli has detache. Without this technique the arrangers lose 30% of their ideas on violin parts.. Eastwest is powerful team, this team has the best and most experienced programmers in the world! So, I think they can do it. They promised us that their library will be the best in the world! And this library now lacks only one component - real quick accurate violin detache...
I think it is extremely difficult to model detache using a group of violins.. Detaсhe is primarily a transition from the exact movements of the bow up and down, and this point change of bow can not be accurately determine in a group of violins.. But! Is it possible to determine this point when playing a one violin? Solo. And mono. I think this is possible.
In this regard, I propose a eastwest team to make a new strings library! Library, which has never been, and which can only make such a powerful team as eastwest.
Now I will prepare a complete material about this new incredible library. sec..

[Pietro]

Originally Posted by Anssi

Hmm, but there is a detache patch for every string section in HS. 01 Long > 1st Violins Detache RR KSFP Ni.ewi for example. Does sound different than just a sustain patch....

Yeah. You are right, there is, but it's kinda not THE thing.

The closest to the real thing is probably Marc Sus patch.

- Piotr

[studioseyur]

This could be a new Hollywood Strings 2 library!



Why not?..

[obmit]

The description of 'detache' in the manual is incorrect. They are talking about the word 'detached'. In string writing, 'detache' is not detached, it is the exact opposite! It is when you play a new note with a new bow but it has no gap or accent, it is a smooth bow change. In many cases this means the bow is moving quite fast, so a long stroke on the (short) note. The catch is the samples are either really short (stacc, off the string stuff), or really long. The long ones are made then with a slow bow, so the sound is not 'intense' enough to play a medium or fast detache passage. Plus the attacks on the long patch are often too slow and the release is too long. This again is related to how the bow is working and the speed and pressure. Bow speed and pressure are the things the sample libraries can not replicate and are going to be one of the things that holds the sample world back from replacing real players. Watch a section play and see how the speed of the bow changes with every note, that gives it life, samples have the same bow speed the whole time = no life.

Obmit