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Old 06-25-2005, 01:02 AM
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This is a mockup of the well known Dies Irae from the Mozartīs Requiem.
Was scored with SONAR 4 using 2GB of RAM and the Kompact VST bouncing in three steps, first the orchestra and then the Choirs F and the Choirs S.
The patches are the Forte ones in every section SATB, one section per instrument.
You will notice that in some phrases, Sopranos are rised up an eighth and Basses lowered another eighth, or interchange of notes between Sopranos and Altos. This was my choice in order to keep the voices into the default range of SC.


http://personales.upv.es/jcmasia/MOZART_DIES_IRAE.mp3

The soprano text is:

"Dies irae dies illa solvet saeclum in favila teste David cum Sibylla Quantus tremor est futurus Quando judex est venturus cuncta stricte discusurus Dies irae dies illa solvet saeclum in favila teste David cum Sibylla Quantus tremor est futurus Quando judex est venturus cuncta stricte discusurus Dies irae dies illa Dies irae dies illa Quantus tremor est futurus Quando judex est venturus cuncta stricte discusurus cuncta stricte stricte discusurus cuncta stricte stricte discusurus"



As sugested by you, I completed the orchestration (replaced in the link above)

Also post an mp3 with the choirs "a cappella".

http://personales.upv.es/jcmasia/choirs.mp3

Hope you enjoy it
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:51 AM
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Luis,
it is impressive!!!!
i don't wanna comment the orchestra part, but the choir part is really great!!!
I think this is really a difficult piece, but you make the choir sounds really great!
Just one thing for me that I have listened several time the original piece:
as we are talking about the God's ira, maybe you could add some vibrato to the choir in order to reach a sound that better represent the ira of the god. So this is what I think but anyway you have done a great work,
congratulations,
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Old 06-25-2005, 06:12 AM
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The orchestral parts don't really do it for me, but the expression you got out of the choir is pretty damn impressive! Wow! *blink*

Would you mind posting an mp3 with just the choir parts?
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Old 06-25-2005, 11:05 AM
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Roberto, Neo, I really apreciate your comments.

The first impressed was me, I started this mockup just as an exercise to learn the use of SC/WB.

My intention was to learn about the choirs part, so I recalled an score that was as old as my first Edirol SC and replaced the instruments for EWSQL Gold to make a simple rithm with the timpani and fill in the gaps.

Then scored the chorus parts and wrote the Votox text, latin phonetics are easy for spanish people.

When I heard completed the F section, even without any expresion or controller set, I was really impresed for the quality of sound, so kept doing with the S section and added some expression. After that I decided that these sounds should be shared just as they was with the choirs almost "nude".

You are right, the choir really "blinks" but is not my effort, I did very little, it is due to varios GENIUS: Mozart and the SC team including Nuno, whose WB will be an standard to follow in the future years.

BTW this piece is not intended to be posted in the contest because I think it can be done much better.

Neo, I will send to your mail the choirs solo mp3.

regards

Luis

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Old 06-25-2005, 11:50 AM
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Those Choirs are awesome!!!
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Old 06-25-2005, 08:41 PM
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Great stuff. The consonants could be a touch louder. The timpani sounds bad, loud and robotic. I think the whole thing is slightly panned to the left too. I would love to hear this with improved orchestra and some tweaking!! Thanks for posting.
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I agree with Nick-- the consonants are very non-existant. And having sung this piece (which is SO FUN), I know exactly what they're supposed to be saying without seeing anything . As in, I'm not sure if the consonants are there at all, or if I'm just imposing my prior knowledge of the words and filling it in in my head. The orchestra in the back is quite lacking as has already been pointed out, and could really help give it some big punch. The strings are very machine-gunny, and the timpani, as Nick said, is like a robot. But the chorus, for the most part, sound very good. If only there were consonants... I love how the choir sounds like it's choking on "cuncta stricte" when they say the flipped r of stricte at 1:01 . Coolness though!
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A nice effort - I was waiting for someone to do something like this.
I agree that the consonants could be more strongly enunciated. I would also go over the votox for some of the vowel sounds too - they are not quite perfect.. I think with a little more effort (and perhaps a touch more practice with WB) you can get this sounding near perfect in terms of pronounciation. The performance is already quite impressive, nicely expressive. You may considering picking up the tempo just a little, making things more incisive. It is the apocalypse after all.

This example gives me hope that with a little clever manipulation of the latin votox, it should be possible to give convincing renderings of italian texts!
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forget the panning comment.
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Nice work on the vocals ! I love that piece and this is a very good start, could be improved but you must know that I'm sure.
What about putting the text in the wordbuilder databae ? would you mind ?

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